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In general?–just in time support? (ALL 2 units except for support for 100 (a 2 hr lab) -- .5 unit (?) = 1.5 hrs)  \n● David, Pajseu/Mark  \no Matrix – not today but when…soon!  \no Once the matrix is done, need to apply to specific courses  \n● Shayla  \no once we get the math recommendation chart, will clean up – send out for review…;  \no lay out more specifically who’s in charge, timeline, the types (check Google folder for David’s checklist from CAP – thanks for that David!)  \n● Jamie Moss  \no moral support & Help Center  \no all questions  \nNotes  \nRE: test table (as opposed to student groups), GPA can go there, but what about the grade in the last HS math class? Is it a combined number? (refer to Placement New Rules doc – updated 12/12/18)  \n(Is this what we want to use the test table for? May need to create a custom table?– per John for MM no need custom table. )  \n(rows--GPA/columns – grades; calculates to placement in the matrix) Values are already in the staging table and stored in our system. Test table currently holds AP & ACT scores. Matrix is in the test table and calculates placement.  \nOnce the math scenarios are finished, Shayla will get the spreadsheet into one format and send to: Counseling, DRC, Math Center, Math Department, Assessment, High school counselors and math chairs, Records & Evaluations, Admissions, Starfish team? (Cindy Anfinson?)…)– See Communications Spreadsheet; Shayla to revise English, ESL, and Read recommendations to get into same format.  \nWill inform our communication to present students and how they are to deal with the classes going away…needs to go out asap?  \nRe-run placements at FT2 census  \np. 78 of DVC PPT Presentation – we need to create the matrix – Mark or David – later on this week (Jay gone from January 6 – 18); will check email at other times.  \nWill we need to develop a second level in the matrix to inform placement by path? (IS? Enrollment Services?) (see p. 79 of Presentation DVC PPT)  \nTHINKING THROUGH STUDENT PROCESS  \nWhat will the student see when in eservices?  \n● placement box w/link to Understanding Your Placement  \n● Option messages to students (drop down menu or radio button)– select 1 of 4 pathways; then see specific recommendations)  \n● OR want to create a different landing page for Understanding Your Placement – drop down  \nmenu here? (any security concerns when moving out of eservices to Understanding Your Placement)– select the pathway – get specific info on their pathway only – next link back to the entire flowchart (radio buttons)  \n● OR this takes them to a link that gives them their placement – on that page is the link to the flowchart with their placement highlighted – contact info for Qs (Counseling –(760) 744-1150 , Rob Jones – student advisor for Math); give students the opportunity to play around to see how much math they’ll have to take; add the portion of the flow chart that would be left for that student in that pathway; ideally – the student’s placement would be highlighted onto the flowchart?  \nDo we want to do this?  \nFor an unofficial placement--For students not going through application process – use DVC model to get info for MM – here’s your placement (would the outcome be dumped into PS? No…?)  \nNeeded msg about your placement may be changing; check your student center after April XXX – where to get your questions answered…  \nDavid – Process  \nFrom app process → eservices output → one simple message (pre-transfer or transfer level or above transfer level) (once up to 140?) → understanding your placement link – select your pathway – you can take any of these (your path and placement lit up but other path options still visually available)  \nPlacement that student will see → 56 w/6  \nLanguag","cbCaidxWUQl1rDvA","https://ap.wps.com/l/cbCaidxWUQl1rDvA","pdf",1037158,28,"English","# Tasks\n## Placement matrix and recommendation charts\n## Student-facing eServices experience\n## Communication timeline and student scenarios","[{\"question\":\"What is the group finalizing in the placement workflow?\",\"answer\":\"The group finalizes the placement matrix and recommendation charts, including how inputs like GPA and high school math course grades are used to calculate placement and feed course recommendations. 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