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I'm your host, Steve McGhee.  \nThis season, we're going to focus on designing and building soųware in SREs. Our guests come from a variety of roles, both inside and outside of Google. Happy listening. And remember, hope is not a strategy.  \n[JAVI BELTRAN, \"TELEBOT\"]  \nHello everyone, and welcome to Google's SRE podcast, or as we like to call it, the Prodcast. This is the ůrst episode, or as we like to say, the zeroth episode, in season three. Today, we have Vlad and Amy, who are going to help us out a liŵle bit.  \nAnd we're going to start oŦ our season. This is going to be the third season. We're going to be focusing on soųware engineering in SRE. And the topic we're going to focus on today is going to be what happens when soųware engineers solve production problems? And what's the importance of the soųware engineering mindset within SRE?  \nAnd this in no way means like soųware engineering is the only thing, or like you should only be writing code 100% of the time. 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And there, I'm responsible for the so-called Teamplay digital health plaŴorm, which is a soųware as a service plaŴorm for health care applications and digital services.  \nAnd this is where SRE comes in very handy because you need to operate the plaŴorm somehow. And this is where we use heavily the SRE methodology. And I'm looking forward totalking about it with all of you on the podcast.  \nSTEVE: Well, thank you both for coming today. Just to get started, I think we want to start actually with the inverse. So speciůcally, we have a question here for Vlad, which was, how do operations serve as the core part of SRE, which might feed into soųware engineering later on? Like, what do we even mean by operations to begin with.  \nVLAD: So in my view, SRE is a methodology for running digital services reliably at scale. And it's about running the services, so we are ůrmly in the operations arena. 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