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And what is the D&D character level of both Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White?”  \nThe hosts ofthe Prancing Pony Podcast have had our dice in storage for a few years now, and we aren’t up on the D&D Fifth Edition rules; so we asked listener and patron Jeff LaSala—a writer and roleplayer who has written D&D roleplaying material and aScribe Award–nominated D&D novel—to answer the question for us. Jeff’s response was as remarkable and inspiring as the Grey Pilgrim himself. We covered the highlights ofit in the Barliman’s Bag segment of Episode 083 – Oh Yes, Ees Very Nice-uh, but it really deserves to be experienced in its full glory. Enjoy.  \nAfter you’re done, visit Jeff’s biweekly Silmarillion Primer series at Tor.com for his take on the First Age: [https://www.tor.com/series/the-silmarillion-primer/](https://www.tor.com/series/the-silmarillion-primer/)  \nLet me start by saying that while it's a very fun question, Tolkien's legendarium isn’t especially compatible with D&D rules, mechanics, world assumptions, and cosmologies...even though the game itself was greatly inspired by his works. That said, let's go ahead and speculate under the banner of IF. What would a D&D version of Gandalf, if one existed, be like? Let’s assume we’re talking about the current edition of Dungeons & Dragons, the 5th Edition.  \nNow he wouldn't normally be a human wizard in the D&D sense, certainly not in his original form. A Middle-earth wizard—with its Quenya etymology as meaning a member of an\"order\"—is quite different from what we normally associate with the word. But again... IF.  \nFirst we must remember that Gandalf is a Maia named Olórin, and as such he is probably some sort of angel—a deva or archon, possibly even a modest variety of planetar or solar. But when sent by the Valar, he became part of the Istari and became subject to policies and limitations. The Istari were “clad in bodies as of Men...subject to the fears and pains and weariness of earth, able to hunger and thirst and be slain.” So in this form he's human for all intents and purposes, though relatively ageless.  \nIf he must have the wizard class, then I'll go ahead and peg Gandalf the Grey at 17th level, the lowest level you have to be to access 9th-level spells. Which is super powerful by any standard. If that seems too high to anyone, remember that the Istari (according to Unfinished Tales) were sent by the Valar in the desire to \"amend the errors of old, especially that they attempted to guard and seclude the Eldar. \" So yeah, 17th-level power is a lot, but he still has to keep most of that under wraps. Throughout The Lord of the Rings, and even by his own admission, Gandalf is mostly just walking, running, or riding around giving people advice and inspiring them to action.  \nEven at the Battle of the Hornburg, when Gandalf shows up with reinforcements, Legolas says,\"Mithrandir, Mithrandir! This is wizardry indeed!\" And then a bit later Éomer says, \"You are mighty in wizardry, Gandalf the White!\"  \nBut Gandalf waves it away by saying, \"That may be. But if so, I have not shown it yet. I have but given good counsel in peril, and made use of the speed of Shadowfax. Your own valour has done more, and the stout legs of the West-fold men marching through the night. \" This is Gandalf's style, nudging and convincing, and steering the good guys together. His wisdom is his wizardry, along with a lion's share of courage, improvisation, and longsuffering. Only when absolutely needed do his supernatural powers kick in.  \nSorry, back to the question; let's talk D&D magic. So as a D&D wizard he's an arcane magic-user who uses a staff as his arcane focus and would own at least one spellbook so he has the means to prepare his spells each day. 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