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I am hopeful that these alternative options will create more equity in the process of obtaining a license and ultimately lead to a more diverse bar. There is significant value in experiential learning as a component of bar membership. As an employer, I am excited about increasing the pool of practice-ready law school graduates. |\n| Comments (ATE) | Susan Carter | [myrtlepointlaw@gmail.com](myrtlepointlaw@gmail.com) |  | 2021-06-28 18:08:43 | Sorta brilliant. I just left a comment regarding the UBE, and its relevance to everyday practice for most Oregon lawyers. Giving law students, and young graduates, practical experience before setting them loose is a wonderful idea. I realize it will take some fleshing out, but kudos. |\n| Comments (ATE) | M. Mandell | [mjmandell.esq@gmail.com](mjmandell.esq@gmail.com) |  | 2021-06-28 18:55:22 | The standards set for admission to the Bar should be uniform for all attorneys. Changing the standards to accomodate applicants is different from encouraging diversity. The law school role is to educate and this is where efforts should be made to reach diverse groups. There is a paucity of good lawyers who really understand the law or their role in society and lowering the standards to admit diverse applicants does nothing to protect the public. The alternate program uses subjective standards and not objective, uniform standards. I disagree with offering alteratives. The Bar exam is the minimum competency test to allow attorneys to practice. We need a minimum competency barometer. |\n| Comments (ATE) | Chris Walters | [cwalters@balljanik.com](cwalters@balljanik.com) |  | 2021-06-28 19:04:04 | Hello the proposals are complex but I have concern that paralegals will be admitted to the bar without proper training or knowledge of the law. Paralegals can do thousands of hours of good work without knowing the law underlying their work. Once admitted there is no check on service to clients. Perhaps there could be a specialty consumer license that shows this knowledge as to consumer matters, and licenses work only as to the matters covered. Thanks |\n| Comments (ATE) | Jan E. Friedman | [jfriedman@droregon.org](jfriedman@droregon.org) |  | 2021-06-28 19:51:05 | I prefer the Oregon Experiential Pathway program (OEP) . Developed with Oregon’s three law schools, because this will allow potentially additional practicum/ practical experience prior to graduation from law school. Additionally, then the Law School Graduate will be armed with this information and experience.\u003Cbr>I do not like the mentorship as well because a graduate may not be able to find a mentor or a dependable mentor and this could thwart their effort to begin practicing law. It seems that there needs to be time for this sort of quality mentorship to develop prior to making it a requirement. |\n| Comments (ATE) | James K Walsh | [jameskwalsh@hotmail.com](jameskwalsh@hotmail.com) |  | 2021-06-28 20:02:01 | I am totally against this or any alternative to the traditional bar exam. This is a step in the wrong direction. |\n| Comments (ATE) | Ryan Corbridge | [ryan@corbridgelaw.com](ryan@corbridgelaw.com) |  | 2021-06-28 20:12:06 | I passed the bar exam and so should you. |\n| Comments (ATE) | David Shirk | [dshirk@mortgagebanking.law](dshirk@mortgagebanking.law) |  | 2021-06-28 22:16:39 | An excellent report on possible alternatives to the uniform bar exam.\u003Cbr>Both the OEP and SPP recommendations seem viable. I did not understand whether the scope of a candidate's exam alternative portfolio might be restricted by the program to designated subject areas or unlim","cbCaimDMuNwuPBSw","https://ap.wps.com/l/cbCaimDMuNwuPBSw","pdf",202080,"English","# Comments (ATE)\n## Alternative bar admission pathways\n## Standards, competency, and public protection\n## Mentorship and practical preparation\n## Scope, evaluation, privilege, and confidentiality","[{\"question\":\"What themes appear in the comments about bar admission alternatives?\",\"answer\":\"The comments focus on alternative pathways emphasizing experiential learning and practical preparation, alongside debates about competency standards and whether alternatives maintain adequate public protection.\"},{\"question\":\"What support is expressed for experiential or pathway programs?\",\"answer\":\"Some commenters praise experiential pathway concepts for giving law students and graduates real-world practice before beginning to work, and for increasing the pool of practice-ready graduates.\"},{\"question\":\"What concerns are raised about changing or lowering standards?\",\"answer\":\"Other commenters argue that admission standards should be uniform and objective, and they warn that alternative approaches could reduce minimum competency, create gaps in training, and limit future practice options.\"}]","Comments-Export-2021-Jul-06 - ATE Comments | PDF"]